So I have played a couple matches by now in which people use the AD reflection and PD reflection and have lost all of them. Now by itself the 2 items don't really do much and can be contained because it doesn't reflect much (still I think suit of sorrows is too much you can beat most fights against AD champion when you equip it but that a side note) but when they use the mods for the 2 items the player becomes unstoppable besides the fact they can win automatically any 1 v 1 fights even 1 v 2 if you play well and especially if your a tank, in team fights your forced to not attack them but with players who have area of attack damage attacks take hits too and once you beat everyone else and leave the one guy with reflection they are gonna kill you because you probably have lost a lot health and you cant beat the guy with reflection he probably killed you anyways before you even try because you cant counter this thing actually I've heard you just put armor to protect against it but since when do items become so powerful you have to change your build. that's assuming 1 guy puts it if the team decides to put it also its automatic loss unless someone is a miracle worker and beats them because I know I cant. Example: I was playing a match in heights where their team had 4 guys the other one had problems with the controls said he couldn't move or something, anyway we were 5 vs. 4 and me and my friends were winning in the start and they bleeped badly up until the point an Atomic poison ivy builds fully both reflections and we couldn't stop her nobody could they had 34 health but never lost a point because ivy was undefeatable by the way I couldn't escape her either had to put up batman's trap to hold her 3 seconds to escape wasn't gonna try to kill her either, I was joker so my health droped before she even attacked me which by the way if we avoid attacking ivy her passive comes in and then reflects more damage as we try to kill her because she was that their team had but she held so much that her teammates came back and we couldn't do anything really .
So yeah by now you get the idea its an item way too powerful to counter and that means it needs nerf I don't know if some one knows how to beat this if you do please tell me im losing a lot of games unless I put these 2 items myself