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    GH tier list for July 2014

    Tier 0

    Catwoman, Superman, Doomsday, Star Sapphire

    Tier 1


    Sinestro, Harley Quinn,Shazam, Atomic Poison Ivy, Joker, Wonder Woman, Atomic Green Lantern, Mecha Wonder Woman, Flash, Poison Ivy

    Tier 2

    Aquaman (AD), Zatanna, Green Lantern, Mecha Superman, Gaslight Batman, Arcane Green Lantern, Nightmare Superman, Batman, Green Arrow, Nightmare Batman, Blue Beetle

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    Gaslight Catwoman, Aquaman, Robin, Atomic Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Gaslight Joker, Cyborg, Atrocitus

    Reasoning/Explanation

    Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to play in any tourneys before posting this tier list, so I'm not quite 100% familiar with top competitive picks. Only top yolo queue picks. Here's what I've been seeing.

    With the new shirtless Aquaman skin, I've obviously been playing a lot of this champion. He has a lot of issues that I wasn't aware of before. Mainly his w ult damage feels unsatisfying, and is actually really easy for other people to interrupt putting it on cooldown. This is devastating for him. His q damage is impressive, but I feel like too much of his power is being budgeted into this skillshot. It's easy to miss with and easy to block. With what Aquaman's kit accomplishes, you could actually build Wonder Woman the same way and get similar results. Both of their qs have similar ratios, but Wonder Woman has more overall utility while also having health ratios (giving her the option to build tanky if need be). As a blaster he's outshined by every other PD champ in the game, and as a PD bruiser Shazam and WW are better picks. Since then I've tried making him work as an AD bruiser when I noticed that his ratios and bases were nearly identical to Superman's. It's a bit of a weird build, but it works. I want to experiment with it more before I definitely place him somewhere, but he can function quite well as an AD bruiser.

    The mighty have fallen...into tier 1. Flash's nerfs were heavy handed, and yet he's still reasonably strong. His ult was pretty ridiculous, and it still is. His mobility is also quite annoying. He just can't faceroll with blue scarab anymore, and it's great.

    Catwoman is queen of GH. Her damage and dueling without her ultimate is already quite strong. With her ultimate it gets to be ridiculous. Factor in how slippery she is with her medium range, and you have an outstanding champ for this map.

    Superman feels really strong right now. His damage is quite high, as is his tankiness. The utility that he brings to the table makes him really hard to pin down, while also contributing a great deal to his team.

    The Abin Sur's changes and fix to Ivy's q hitbox has brought her back into tier 1. At the same time, I feel like the final rank of abin sur's needing full stacks has delayed the power spike that Star Sapphire and Sinestro would typically see if they were to get the item.

    Words cannot describe how much I absolutely hate Atrocitus. I think he's a terrible champion, and my friends know that if they want to troll me, they simply have to pick him.

    Supergirl doesn't feel that great to me. Her scaling and base damages are really low. I've had people argue to me that her true damage makes up for it. When I look at end game stats though, the actual amount of true damage she deals within any given game is hilariously low. Her passive only lasts for 2 seconds, and it's easy to break it, denying her the true damage that she needs to deal to be threatning.

    Marksmen still feel pretty lackluster to me, with the exception of Mecha Wonder Woman (and even then I personally don't see what all the hype is about).

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    Not gonna go deep here, sice this is your party, but!! i would appreciate the good and old ¨MY GH tier list¨

    Kneel to the king of Atlantis!!

    Personally I find aquaman to be a total beast, yeah you can miss his Q here and there, but that cooldown doe! (and if you land it..) and yeah his W can be interrupted, but that cooldown doe! (lolz) a good PD aquaman build, on the right hands that is, it's plain scary and unduelable (did i just made that word up? maybe i have some ***** on my mouth ) *little bit of an inside joke there* but yeah no one can/should 1v1 aquaman, unless you're far behind in money (and even if so you can still kill them), if they are pure damage assassins/blasters/bruisers (building only damage) you just kill them with half of your skills, there's not even a real need to land your Q, and if they're tanks it simply will take a bit more time but they simply can't, i've been basically vs any build, and once you get psi going the party starts (the synergy with his passive is undeniably strong)

    His W is a finisher i've seen uncountable aquamans just going at you Knocking you down (not using the auto attack after it *facepalm*) and then use their ult... i'm not gonna give away all my tricks but let's just take a look at this numbers:

    ¨Stagger turns Might of Atlantis into Wrath: Deal 45 Power Damage + 20% of the target's missing health.¨

    ya.. 20% missing health, you got that right, if this was my tier list he would be a tier 1-0 as PD, not to mention you can simply escape with your E if they denied your W's ult (good luck escaping PD WW... they're just gonna punch her Va***a nonstop) with some type of CC and still be Huber effective at low health just poking at them with your Q or simply go back to base since probably by that time you'd made enough damage anyways; someone **** blocking your Wrath feels kinda ****ty but in any case you probably just disabled that champion even if he's not dead because his low health will force him to go away~

    ¨Words cannot describe how much I absolutely hate Atrocitus. I think he's a terrible champion, and my friends know that if they want to troll me, they simply have to pick him.¨

    idk man.. that ult... plus the constant ability to basically neutralize enemies with his E, he's the best friend of any marksman/blaster, but yeah i'm not gonna go deep with this one, i'm guessing you can just use API for that (she doesn't really have a strong ult although it IS very useful)

    ¨Supergirl doesn't feel that great to me. Her scaling and base damages are really low. I've had people argue to me that her true damage makes up for it. When I look at end game stats though, the actual amount of true damage she deals within any given game is hilariously low. Her passive only lasts for 2 seconds, and it's easy to break it, denying her the true damage that she needs to deal to be threatning.¨

    *raises his hand* i wasn't actually arguing i barely mentioned how her passive's quite cool, it's not just true damage but attack speed and it synergizes with some items as well, but yeah, i also mentioned that her scalings could be better, i made a post about this and it was kinda long but... long story short, her Q could have slightly better scalings as her W, and the Attack armor on her E should have a scaling (it doesn't has any...) Although not very high since unlike superman you can decide when you use it and that's a factor in it self (supes has 40% scaling for his passive with his attack armor i feel like 15% or 20% should be enough for her)

    I 100% agree with the rest, i just thought to bring some of my points of view on some things as well + seeding the post :*

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    You can't actually just use API for that - she can't interrupt any more. This is a major downside to picking her.

    I agree with most things. I'd put Nightmare Superman slightly higher until he gets nerfed. Why is Joker so high?

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Volandum View Post
    You can't actually just use API for that - she can't interrupt any more. This is a major downside to picking her.

    I agree with most things. I'd put Nightmare Superman slightly higher until he gets nerfed. Why is Joker so high?
    Yep i know, just thought to mention her as another type of Enforcer/controller, and i also didn't feel like being the ¨Atrocitus Salesman!! B-B-Buy him!¨ personally i think he's great with a good team.

    Joker can be scary yo, dat ability to troll, slow + escape and defend a point for ever Álamo style (easily winning 1v2 if defending a point) can't be looked with disdain

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    Aquaman and I do just fine on the heights.

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    I do feel better playing the Man of Steel now compared to how it used to be.
    Azarath Metrion Zinthos!

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    You are wrong about supergirl, she is one of the strongest enforcer/assassins in the game for GH, i recently pulled a 33/4/7 on GH with her and i even got a screenshot to prove it.

    Im sure she is simply un-discovered but it will change soon

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    My problem with tier list is that it is not just a matter if X champ counter Y champ, you can have someone playing catwoman against someone playing robin, sure catwoman may have a slight advantage, but the more skilled player will generally come out on top %95 of the time, I feel its like that for ever game not just mobas, and finding 2 players of absolute identical skill is damn near impossible. I generally don't like tier list because people read will them and think its the Be all End all then I have to see catwoman superman and star sapphire (your list) every game, not saying I couldn't outplay one of them with the champs I play but league has this problem, almost all ranked games are literally the same 15-16 champs picked/banned because "the pros play them" or they are whats "in this month" except when you get the guys dedicated to 1 champ
    Unless it meta knight then yes it is all about the meta knight, I hate that guy XD

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate26 View Post
    You are wrong about supergirl, she is one of the strongest enforcer/assassins in the game for GH, i recently pulled a 33/4/7 on GH with her and i even got a screenshot to prove it.

    Im sure she is simply un-discovered but it will change soon
    Its not that he is wrong about super girl, it is his opinion, maybe he has not had enough play time with her, or maybe supergirl is just not his kind of champ

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    Re: GH tier list for July 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate26 View Post
    You are wrong about supergirl, she is one of the strongest enforcer/assassins in the game for GH, i recently pulled a 33/4/7 on GH with her and i even got a screenshot to prove it.

    Im sure she is simply un-discovered but it will change soon
    ¨Enforcer/assassins¨ ???.. You could call her a Bruiser/assassin, same with Batman, but enforcer? Nope. (and she's even more on the bruiser side compared to Batman, he's more on the assasin side)

    To be fair KD on a match means little to nothing, not to brag, but i carried a game with her doing 35-0- ? (around 20+ assists can't remember) and 2 quadras, on a match that started as a 3v5 for us (yep 2 afks, eventually they came back) And that fact does not means she's ¨one of the strongest¨ it all depends on who you're playing against, and also a bit of luck you know.. being at the right time and moment, like if you go to a casino, you might put your first coin on a machine and win, or just spent all night throwing dices and lose everything, although at a high lvl of understanding the game ¨chance¨ becomes a lower factor since you know what to do at any given time, and in any situation.

    With that said his tier list it's a ¨Right now¨ kinda deal, since things change all the time, and on top of it all, for a high lvl of gameplay, considering 5 good players will play against another 5 good players, ofcrs a good robin will kill a bad catwoman, hell any good bruiser can kill a bad zatanna with a bad gascat 1v2 if they're doing everything wrong (regarding what Rosanderman said)

    Also! this is for GH, this map requires a high control and mastering of the champions, those skills are not easy to develop, many players who are moderately good at GD/CC will be the worst at GH, because they're objective users, they just focus on the objective, and have little to no skill on taking advantage of the champions, knowing how to fight, or have an optimal build, because on those kind of maps objectives are what matter, you'll often see people suiciding and going negative, and yet manage a win (not that that's impossile on GH, for example if a 5 men team build just tank they will eventually win because it's a time based map, and even if they get killed during all the game they will have a chance to win, unless they're facing another team, then they will never get the chance to get to the tank point, which is around 18+ minutes into the game)

    Anyways the last part has not much to do with it (although it does emphasizes the fact of a tier list being about controlling the champions, which is the most important factor on GH along with real map awareness, objectives? not so much) but overall i think you get my point, i do have some slights differences with the tier list, as i said on my 1rst comment but overall it's solid, just.. don't think picking a tier 0/1 champion will make you ¨do better¨ Star Sapphire and Catwoman are not all that easy to master, although Doomsday is the easiest champ in the game, he's the first champion i've ever felt comfortable when i started playing and could manage to start learning from 0 with him, the rest is history.

 

 

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